LINDA WERTHEIMER, HOST:
At first glance, it seems like a charming cartoon, stick figure animation featuring a tiny child's voice. But the content is not childish. This short animated film, which is up for an Oscar, is called "World Of Tomorrow." The message of this story, about a clone from the future speaking to her original, is difficult to describe, even for the creator, Don Hertzfeldt.
DON HERTZFELDT: It's one of those things that if I was smart enough to explain it in words, I wouldn't have had to make a movie out of it. It's a love letter to science fiction. I've loved science fiction my whole life. But I've never made a science fiction movie. And it's sort of a parody of science fiction at the same time. It's all of the things I find interesting in sci-fi amplified.
WERTHEIMER: Well, let's listen to a clip. We introduce the two main characters. First is the adult stick figure.
(SOUNDBITE OF FILM, "WORLD OF TOMORROW")
JULIA POTT: (As Emily) Hello, Emily.
WINONA MAE: (As Emily Prime) Hi.
POTT: (As Emily) One day, when you are old enough, you will be impregnated with a perfect clone of yourself. You will later upload all of your memories into this healthy new body.
WERTHEIMER: So we learn that the little child that you just heard there is Emily, is the real Emily, or Emily Prime, as she's called in the cartoon. And her response, really, is just chatter.
(SOUNDBITE OF FILM, "WORLD OF TOMORROW")
MAE: (As Emily Prime) I had lunch today.
WERTHEIMER: (Laughter) That sounds like a real little girl. Is this an actress being a real little girl?
HERTZFELDT: That's my 4-year-old niece being a real little girl.
WERTHEIMER: Oh, my God, really?
HERTZFELDT: Yeah, I was writing this piece, and I knew I needed a little girl, and I didn't want to fake it. And so my niece was 4 years old at the time. Her name is Winona. She lives in Scotland, and I live in Texas.
HERTZFELDT: And so I don't get to see her very often. And so we get together usually for the holidays, and I have, like, five days with her. And we just hung out, and I quietly recorded her while we drew pictures and played around with toys and talked about the world. I asked her questions, and I walked away with these sessions. And it was sort of like a fun puzzle to kind of figure out what she could be looking at when they're doing these things. And then once I sorted that out, I brought in Julia Pott, who voiced the adult Emily and rewrote her lines so that they could have a conversation.
WERTHEIMER: Now what you're stuck with is that what you and your little niece created here, everybody else is interpreting, being it seems as though you're exploring what it means to be human, what it means to have memories. At one point, the Emily clone falls in love. First, she falls in love with a rock, and then she falls in love with some kind of unintelligible being from another world. And you don't want us tempted to think that you were trying to tell us that whatever it is that makes us human, you know, it persists. It continues to exist.
HERTZFELDT: Sure. I hope so. You know, I think one of the reasons I love science fiction so much is that it's - when it's ideally done right, it's a reflection on ourselves. You know, no matter what decade it comes from, it's representing the present. I think, yeah, with the cloning story, she's learning what it's like to be human. She's learning what it's like to love something, and she winds up breaking this alien thing's heart. And to me, you know, everyone goes through that at some point in adolescence, you know. There's - you meet someone when you're a young teenager, and they're never right for you, and you always wind up hurting someone on the way to figuring out all this stuff. But it was a fun writing process, you know. I not only had Winona's little bits, but science fiction, it's worldbuilding. I mean, you can get away with anything. You can do anything, and it's so free. And, you know, to be animating at the same time, it's the ultimate freedom in filmmaking because you can literally put anything on the screen that you can imagine.
WERTHEIMER: I want you to tell us about the dark ending. It's one of the funniest conversations that Emily the clone has with Emily Prime. It's about how people are coming like shooting stars out of space.
HERTZFELDT: Yeah, I'll do my best to set this clip up. So time travel is a thing. It can be very dangerous, and it's also very - it's an expensive thing to do. There's a meteor headed towards the planet, and the lower classes can't afford to escape the planet. And so they're using discount time travel to try and desperately get themselves out of the time that they're in to a safer place. And in doing so, time travel is so unpredictable, and they're using this really cheap method. All they're doing is just warping themselves into planetary orbit. And so there's a ring of dead bodies around the earth, and so our characters are looking at the night sky, and they're watching the bodies fall like shooting stars.
(SOUNDBITE OF FILM, "WORLD OF TOMORROW")
POTT: (As Emily) The dead bodies burn as they return to Earth and now light up our night sky.
MAE: (As Emily Prime) What's this up in the sky?
POTT: (As Emily) Dead bodies.
MAE: (As Emily Prime) Look, another one.
POTT: (As Emily) Yes, it is very pretty.
MAE: (As Emily Prime) OK.
POTT: (As Emily) No, they're all dead.
WERTHEIMER: (Laughter) Well, you know, several of us have watched your short film here, and we had a lot of different reactions around the building. I mean, sometimes people were laughing, and some people were just incredibly sad at the dystopia that you have painted and what happens to a central Emily when she's cloned a few times. What do you expect the audience to take away?
HERTZFELDT: That all sounds wonderful to me. It's great for me to hear, you know, those different reactions because when I travel with a movie like this, it's very similar, you know. You'll hear a line in one city get a big laugh, and then in another city, the same line kind of gets a gasp, and that's wonderful. I mean, to me, you know, after working so long on something like this, it's great to go out and meet people and see the reactions and remind yourself that, oh, yeah, you know, I wasn't just working in a cave by myself for no reason, you know. There are people waiting for this and hopefully having some sort of connection to it.
WERTHEIMER: Don Hertzfeldt's new short is called "World Of Tomorrow." It's up for an Academy award. If you want to look at it, it's on Netflix. Thank you.
HERTZFELDT: Thanks. Thanks for inviting me.
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Shorts Films in Focus: "World of Tomorrow"
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Author's note: This month’s short film, Don Hertzfeldt's “World of Tomorrow," is currently available worldwide on Vimeo for $3.99 as a 30-day rental.
Most short films have no hope of making any money. They are usually small passion projects meant to travel the world’s film festivals before they end up on the filmmaker’s website, via a YouTube link or another streaming service. Only precious few move on to the status of an On Demand movie that one has to order on Vimeo or iTunes (and, of course, there are the elite 15 films that go on to be nominated for Academy Awards). A short film has to enjoy monumental success on the film festival circuit before it can be counted on as a money maker for one of those services to list it with a price tag. Yes, it is possible that short films can make money, or at the very least, help make some money back for the filmmaker, who is likely in the red.
This month’s short film, Don Hertzfeldt’s 16-minute animated masterpiece “World of Tomorrow,” exists online, but will cost $3.99 to order (as a 30-day rental). I normally avoid featuring such titles. Part of the appeal of this column is being able to offer a film for free, along with the review and the Q&A with the director. But “World of Tomorrow” is special enough that it warrants a column devoted to it; I certainly wouldn’t showcase it here if I didn’t feel it would be worth your money. Along with its 30-day-rental availability, the film certainly demands repeated viewings. Of all the short films I’ve seen this year (roughly 150 of them), this is my absolute favorite.
Hertzfeldt’s “World of Tomorrow” shares the same animation aesthetic as his 62-minute film “It’s Such A Beautiful Day,” which consisted of three of his shorts, all concerning the same characters. The beings of "World of Tomorrow" look like stick figures any kindergartner could draw, but the lovely, minimalist landscapes they inhabit are a feast for the eyes. The title suggests a futuristic travelogue of sorts and that is precisely what Hertzfeldt delivers, all through the eyes of Emily Prime (voiced by Winona Mae), an adorable four-year old who accidentally turns on a communication device that puts her in touch with an adult third-generation clone of herself who exists 227 years in the future. The Emily clone (voiced by Julia Pott) uses time travel to bring Emily Prime into this future. “You’ve heard of the internet,” says adult Emily. “Welcome to the outer-net.”
From there, Hertzfeldt treats the audience to a series of brilliant absurdist set pieces involving a museum display of an aging human being, discount time travel for the less affluent members of society who want to avoid “dying horribly,” robots on the moon and the transference of precious memories. Like “It’s Such A Beautiful Day” and Hertzfeldt's other work has demonstrated, within the absurdity lurks a sense of longing for a connection, a soulsick-ness. The adult Emily recounts her days falling in love with unintelligible monsters and inanimate objects while working alone on the moon, training robots to be afraid of the dark.
This may sound like a lot to take in, and perhaps on first viewing it is, but “World of Tomorrow” is so funny and endlessly inventive that it hardly matters if it takes a couple viewings to catch and digest all of its ideas. Hertzfeldt has created a rich tapestry of concepts that are both heartbreaking and hilarious, while using the simplest animation tools to create a universe that looks unlike anything else out there. But the true masterstroke of this is the casting of his four-year-old niece Winona, whose voicing of Emily is so wonderful and charming, one almost wishes she could have her own feature. Julia Pott’s delivery as adult Emily has the right tone as she tries to maintain an authoritative presence while also trying to decipher Emily Prime’s brand of gibberish.
I have seen “World of Tomorrow” more times than any other short film in the past few years. It gets richer and funnier with every viewing. While it is a futuristic piece, it has a potent message about appreciating the present. "World of Tomorrow" reminds me of why I love doing this column, and why there has never been a more exciting time for daring artists who express themselves through short films. As Emily says, “Now is the envy of all of the dead.”
Let's talk about the voice work. How did you go about creating Emily? Is everything she says scripted?
Everything adult Emily says was scripted, and everything little Emily says was not. She was voiced by my niece, who was only four when I recorded her. I realized really quickly that there was no way I was going to get her to say any of the lines I'd naively hoped her to say. So instead of trying to coach her, I threw out my lines and quietly recorded her over a few days as we drew pictures and played with toys and stuff. I created her character out of her natural reactions. Then I rewrote the story to make everything fit, mainly lots of dialogue, and brought in Julia to record her lines and the other half of the conversations. It was tricky, but really fun to puzzle out. My niece lives in Scotland, so it wasn't an easy option to just go get additional material from her. It was this or nothing, I had to figure out some way to use whatever was coming out of her mouth. As a writer, I actually felt a lot of the pressure lifted because now I had this weird little collaborator. It was kind of like working with an improvisational actress who was half-crazy, and then disappeared.
The film has a comedic tone that recalls Douglas Adams' work. Would you consider him an influence? What other influences might there be?
Someone else said that too, and I'm embarrassed to say I'm not really familiar with his work. I have a vague memory of reading part of one of those “Hitchhiker” books in the 7th grade but I must have given it up and went back to Stephen King or something. The influences for "World of Tomorrow" were a bit scattered. I'd wanted to make a science fiction film for a long time, so I had a backlog of spare ideas floating around, some of them over ten years old. A few other pieces of the story came directly from a graphic novel I wrote in 2013, which itself was probably heavily, overly influenced by Edward Gorey, though I'm not sure if that really reflects in the movie. Other moments can come from things as simple as hearing a song lyric. My writing is usually a mess of unrelated stuff ... things drift by, get scribbled on Post-it notes, and I eventually gather them together and try to make sense of it. Overall, I've always been a big fan of pulpy science fiction, the optimistic yet somehow terrifying science fiction of the 40's and 50's, where logic took a back seat to some really giant, weird ideas. Some sort of abstract, horrible space doom was always right around the corner, you could disintegrate into a black hole, go mad inside a computer for eternity, or get accidentally marooned thousands of years into the past, yet it was all in the plucky spirit of progress somehow. There's not a lot of sprawling, weird-idea driven science fiction around right now. It's mostly trended towards realism, like having to rescue Matt Damon from Mars. I remember when I first saw "A.I.", the moment it suddenly said, "2000 years later," I thought, "Yes! Yes, show me that!" and I realized how desperate I was for seeing those big risky weird ideas again. Because even if they fail, at least they did it really interestingly.
So much of your work encompasses with works of classical composers like Strauss and Wagner. Does music help inspire some of the sequences you produce?
Most of the time, finding the right marriage of music comes after the fact. I animated a thing for "The Simpsons" where I played a Chopin piece on the piano—that's the only music I can think of right now that I had in mind before I started drawing. I may be misremembering this, but I'm pretty sure the Richard Strauss waltz in "World of Tomorrow" came in after everything was animated. I probably knew I wanted to use it, but I didn't know where yet, or how frequently. Incidentally, speaking of "A.I.", apparently Stanley Kubrick had intended to use that same Strauss piece for the film, but he never got the chance. So I swiped it instead.
Both "It's Such A Beautiful Day" and "World of Tomorrow" have themes of unrequited love and loneliness. What brings you back to these themes?
As a writer, it's more interesting when things don't work out. "Happily ever after" is a pretty boring story to tell. Unrequited love and loneliness is also probably far more common and relatable in most people's lives. I wanted Emily's stunted emotional progress to be as clumsy and painful as every adolescent experience. Most of us gravitated towards all the wrong partners and hurt people on accident in those first messy relationships. Emily is just going through the same thing, only with rocks and fuel pumps and strange creatures. When we recorded the line, "He followed me around for seven years saying unintelligible things," Julia said, "Yep, been in that relationship."
With "World of Tomorrow" being more of a science fiction piece, do you see it as a part of a bigger film that we'll eventually see (like how "Beautiful Day" was comprised of three short films)?
I don't know. I don't think so. After I finished the first part of "It's Such A Beautiful Day" in 2006, I think I immediately knew I wanted to continue that story, practically right where I'd left off. Those three parts flow together pretty seamlessly now as one solid thing. "World of Tomorrow" feels different, more disjointed. That story feels finished, though maybe Emily doesn't. It might be more interesting as a series of individual shorts with their own themes and places in time. Maybe you don't even need to watch them in order. I have a new set of recordings of my niece at age five and she already sounds different, and she recently turned six. I'm not sure if we all want to sign up for doing "Boyhood" in space, revisiting her across time in pieces here and there over the years ... but it's interesting. Who knows. But putting it in a feature-length container with some sort of overarching narrative feels less free right now.
How do you like the Vimeo-On-Demand platform for your film? Will it be made available anywhere else?
"World of Tomorrow" is still in theaters. I think it's soon opening in more of them, and it's later appearing on a limited-run Blu-ray we're releasing. Vimeo's been a really great match, and it'll be staying up there for the foreseeable future too. I'd love to also bring it to a platform like Netflix. "It's Such a Beautiful Day" has found a huge new audience there, but they don't seem very interested in shorts.
What's next for you?
I’m ready to get moving on two new films but I need to get the Blu-ray out of the way first. Film restoration is one of the most boring things I ever find myself doing ... everything is looking really beautiful, the Blu-ray will be great, etc, etc. But I'm really looking forward to animating again.
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